Hear it again: Incarcerated person explains the difference between jail and prison

County jails and state prisons may not seem that different from the outside, but for the people within the walls, living conditions in jails are often very different from what they might experience in state prisons.

Christopher Blackwell is an incarcerated journalist.

In May, he wrote a New York Times op-ed titled, "Two Decades of Prison Did Not Prepare Me for the Horrors of County Jail" about what he saw during roughly two weeks spent in Pierce County Jail.

It was a short detour during a decades-long prison sentence. Blackwell is currently incarcerated at the Washington Corrections Center, a state prison for men in Shelton.

Soundside host Libby Denkmann took a phone call from Blackwell in his cell to talk about the differences he discovered while serving time at Pierce County Jail.

You can listen to the entire conversation in the audio above.